Clio de la Llave

Clio de la Llave and Nadine Robinson are the co-founders of Podcast Nation, a creator-first network born out of their influencer marketing agency, Booje Media. We discuss how they evolved from managing social creators to building one of the most distinctive podcast businesses, why integrating audio with social and talent is now central to modern podcast advertising, and what they’ve learned from scaling shows like The Telepathy Tapes, Dear Shandy, and The Mom Room.